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NerfHerder · Jun 01, 2011, 07:26 PM // 19:26

/agree

As it is now, we pretty much have PvE one weekend and PvP the next. I always thought they should double up and have a PvP and PvE event every weekend. It would also have the added benefit of getting the weekend event your waiting for twice as often.

At this stage of GW, I'm all for additional bonuses.

Bright Star Shine · Jun 01, 2011, 07:26 PM // 19:26

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Originally Posted by shadeblade47

Go look for a SS/LB farming group.

You're faster off doing it h/h than looking for PUGs, and having to form groups, weekend events won't help this...

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Go look for an MQSC group in American hours. Or you could go grind reputation for 2-3 weeks.

Ok, given, this is true... I maxed my luxon from 5 mill to 10 mill in that one weekend last week, and I was lucky for being European, because there weren't many runs around in american times.. Though the runs in american times were faster, because the average euro player is quite retarded..

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Not to mention the fact that many groups for certain things require certain rank.

Who the hell asks for ranks outside of HA? No one.. Nothing or no one requires you to have ranks for anything, except for dumbass PUG tways who ask for stones, which isn't really a rank..

I say /notsigned because I hate the idea of making titles even easier to achieve. And this is coming from someone who is struggling to max his lucky title, because his unlucky is already maxed, and my treasure hunter is so close to max that I'll have to run ~2k extra chests to max my lucky. And I'm not asking for longer lucky weekends, no sir, I work for my titles, instead of asking the /youwin button like everyone is nowadays..

AndrewSX · Jun 01, 2011, 08:01 PM // 20:01

Is everything in the measure you'll extend it.
I'd be really happy to see events start 1 day earlier and finish 1 day later.
But no more.

rick1027 · Jun 01, 2011, 08:57 PM // 20:57

there for a while it was hard for me to play at all during the weekend so im signing for those who work long days on weekends

*lemming* · Jun 01, 2011, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Make "weekend" events every 10 days instead of once a week

kekeke

shadeblade47 · Jun 01, 2011, 11:54 PM // 23:54

The main point of this idea isn't so much to make things easier, it's more to make it easier to play the game with other people. If I was begging for /godmode then I would have probably asked before dumping 7mil into my HoM and putting 4k hours on my warrior. When I said 5 days that was just an example. And nobody asks for ranks for anything outside HA? Try doing a DoASC (not glaiveway or frostway). TK sure as hell needs high enough asuran, UA needs high enough SS, you all need high enough LB, in SoOSC try going in as Honor without a decent EVA rank. Sure not everybody NEEDS a rank for every role in everything but when you type "GLF more SoOSC" you're bound to get about 10 self invites from snows because they don't need a rank. But beyond that I just want to be able to play with humans even if my guildies are all busy.

superraptors · Jun 02, 2011, 08:50 AM // 08:50

anything but pvp

Bright Star Shine · Jun 02, 2011, 10:18 AM // 10:18

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Originally Posted by shadeblade47

And nobody asks for ranks for anything outside HA? Try doing a DoASC (not glaiveway or frostway). TK sure as hell needs high enough asuran

False, I've seen people do TK with 0 Asura. The only reason they (we) ask for r7 Asura is for the breakpoint of 9 seconds PI. The reason for this is to see if people you trial are worth it, because if you can't TK with r7 Asura, you'll probably never be able to do it. Also, r7 Asura = 1 or 2 VQ's tops, don't need a weekend event for that.

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UA needs high enough SS

True, breakpoint of seed is at r9 SS, but my god, that's a hard one, isn't it.. Oh wait, no it's not. It takes you 1-2h tops, with H/H, don't need a weekend event for that.

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you all need high enough LB

Again, false, no one ever asks for a high LB rank to get into a DoASC guild, because you'll get it in 4-5 runs anyway (10k LB/run says hi)

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in SoOSC try going in as Honor without a decent EVA rank. Sure not everybody NEEDS a rank for every role in everything but when you type "GLF more SoOSC" you're bound to get about 10 self invites from snows because they don't need a rank. But beyond that I just want to be able to play with humans even if my guildies are all busy.

That about SoO could be true, I wouldn't know cause I don't PUG stuff, ever, I learned my lesson..

shadeblade47 · Jun 02, 2011, 02:53 PM // 14:53

Bright Star Sunshine: Yes, a lot of these things highly depend on the group. The point of this thread was to encourage easier PUG grouping although a lot of examples talked about guild groups. The thing is, these things make it a hell of a lot easier. There definitely are guilds that will not take people that are the right rank. When the guild I led was pure DoA for a while our tanks refused to use a TK under 7, seed under 9 etc. Also pugging DoA isn't really possible without good LB rank because people just call you a noob and refuse to take you. My idea is more about being able to play with others. Also, 2 hours here and 2 vanquishes there across several classes can accumulate a lot of time. Try getting to R10 Luxon/Kurzick for Imbagon w/o PUG groups and double faction. Possible, but sure as hell not fun.

Bright Star Shine · Jun 02, 2011, 05:03 PM // 17:03

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Originally Posted by shadeblade47

Bright Star Sunshine: Yes, a lot of these things highly depend on the group. The point of this thread was to encourage easier PUG grouping although a lot of examples talked about guild groups. The thing is, these things make it a hell of a lot easier. There definitely are guilds that will not take people that are the right rank. When the guild I led was pure DoA for a while our tanks refused to use a TK under 7, seed under 9 etc. Also pugging DoA isn't really possible without good LB rank because people just call you a noob and refuse to take you. My idea is more about being able to play with others. Also, 2 hours here and 2 vanquishes there across several classes can accumulate a lot of time. Try getting to R10 Luxon/Kurzick for Imbagon w/o PUG groups and double faction. Possible, but sure as hell not fun.

You don't need a double event to get the ranks you're asking for. Your example about Seeding and TK'ing are completely flawed. You only need r7 asura on a mesmer, which takes no effort, nor time what so ever. It takes 2h tops, so with your desperate call for double events, that would be 1h instead of 2. MY GOD! That really needs to last 5 days, to get r7 Asura, doesn't it? And r9 SS? 2-3h give or take. Again, no way you need a double event for that rank.
The only title where you might have a point is Kurz/luxon. Although you can clear MQ with heroes in about 15 minutes without even trying very hard, so getting it there isn't too hard either. So getting r10 Lux there, 10,5k/run, so 21k on your title, starting from scratch, would be ~60h of play, that's long, but kurz/lux is the grindiest title out there anyway. Again, no desperate need for a double event, because you can easily do it in about a month if you put yourself at it..

shadeblade47 · Jun 03, 2011, 05:00 AM // 05:00

Yea maybe for you or me those titles would take a few hours tops. But what about people who started playing recently and want to work on titles? When I started GW I know grouping was easy and made the game much more fun. Why the hell shouldn't they have the luxury to play with others? OMG 2 hours wow why would you complain. 2 hours for asuran +3 hours for SS, then say you want to tank DoASC :O another 2 hours for norn. Then after youve spent 7 hours (think of the casual players here) you realize that you aren't cut out for running messpike. What a bummer. Ok, guess you can PUG with a rt. Oh wait.. PUG groups don't take most people under 7/8 LB :/ it's ok though, that's just a few runs... Oh wait, nobody will let you tag along for a few runs. Well then, looks like you get to H/H some more. Then after you've spent 10 hours playing ALONE you can finally do some DoA (if you still haven't quit GW). The point once again was not to reduce grind for required titles, it was to promote grouping. And are you going to tell me that you could MAX your asuran, norn, EVA and deldrimor title in just a couple hours? The big thing here is that people who don't need the extra rep have already done it, people that do probably don't have 500k invested 40/40 sets and runes for all of their heroes to match their nice meta builds. I'm not trying to troll but I have ~15 /signed for various reasons, many of which being people aren't free during the weekends. Should those people who aren't free get nothing because they don't need the weekend events anyway? If people don't need them why not delete them and give ANet less work?

Bright Star Shine · Jun 03, 2011, 10:22 AM // 10:22

I never said delete them, because they are a nice thing, when they last only 2 days.
@Those people that aren't free on weekends, that must really suck, and I wouldn't like to be in your shoes, but the thing is still, 99% of the people DO have the weekend off, because that's what a weekend is. So why bother making it non-weekend events, which will punish more people than it will help (yay democracy).
Also, if you're a casual player that can only dedicate like 1h/day to GW, you're never gonna get into DoASC guilds, because those require a bit more dedication, and all guilds ask for a bit of title grinds, so the applicants can show some dedication and willingness to get into the guild.
Oh, and you don't need norn ranks for tanking, because if your survival is gonna come down to that 1/2 extra seconds of IAU, you shouldn't be tanking. Plus, in Foundry and in City, your IAU will be up 100% of the time anyway (gogo QZ), and that argument about tanking is flawed again. Stop talking about stuff you don't know anything about, because new players will never be allowed to tank when they get into a new guild. Only the exp people tank, and by the time a new player is deemed ready to tank, he/she will have had so much other stuff done, that the extra couple hours you say you need to dedicate to your silly norn title will be so far away from the tiny little grind you had to do for your Asuran that your "QQ, I got to grind on my own with heroes" doesn't apply anymore.
If you wanna get into DwG, you first need to get your brain checked, but that's just my opinion, but if you actually want to, getting r7 LB is mehishly easy with the wurm farm. It's not fun, but if you want to get into it, it's not gonna be fun, and you need some dedication and again, the weekend event isn't gonna change anything. Oh, and again, a casual player who only has 1h/day to spare to GW won't be doing DwG, seeing that those runs take like 1h30 to finish, if they even finish at all.
And, no you can't max your Eotn titles in a couple of hours, of course not, they were never meant to be maxed that fast, they need to be grinded (ironically) so it looks like this is just another "QQ I can't handle the grind thread" after all.

shadeblade47 · Jun 03, 2011, 11:36 PM // 23:36

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

(yay democracy)

You say you love democracy?

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Originally Posted by chuckles79

/signed conditionally
i know that i wish they had extended the vq'ing weekend to cover the holiday.

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Originally Posted by stephanie goldenbow

being married with children makes it hard to take advantage of many events so i would definitely appreciate longer events.

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Originally Posted by thunder boy

/signed
like the idea of extending the amount of time especially considering i work weekends :-)

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Originally Posted by dot rotten

/signed.

I don't think it would devalue their purposes, considering the different event line-ups cycle, and they don't reappear for a good month or two, so it wouldn't really abuse the idea of title grinding.

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Originally Posted by robin hood uk

/signed

maybe only for eotn/nf titles, but signed none-the-less. The huge impact of the meta these pve only skills have means that these titles have become a forced major grind. Relieving that for the few alts i play would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by maya cerestiez

/signed

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Originally Posted by ironsheik

/signed, i work 40+ hours on fri/sat/sun, i haven't been able to take advantage of a weekend event in years

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Originally Posted by lord dagon

i like the idea. This weekend for example i was busy so i couldn't get in on the double vanquishing rewards, even though i have to do prophecies vanquishes and was going to do them anyway, and lost out of potential money. So i agree, but if you need to name them something else if you are going to do that.

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

/signed
especially when there is a big holiday on monday (like this past weekend)...didnt get to do as much since there was that holiday--would like to have had more time!!! Start them on thursday and end on tuesday!!!

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Originally Posted by swingline

/signed for obvious reasons

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Originally Posted by nerfherder

/agree
at this stage of gw, i'm all for additional bonuses.

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Originally Posted by rick1027

there for a while it was hard for me to play at all during the weekend so im signing for those who work long days on weekends

de·moc·ra·cy: government by the people; especially : rule of the majority

So, you're saying my idea is bad because it goes against the majority? Go hit the dictionary to find the definition of majority on your own.

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

so it looks like this is just another "QQ I can't handle the grind thread" after all.

And that ^ was done by somebody who works most weekends. So keep on trollololololing. As you can see, this thread is obviously coming from somebody who just can't handle grind.

Bright Star Shine · Jun 03, 2011, 11:56 PM // 23:56

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Originally Posted by shadeblade47

You say you love democracy?

de·moc·ra·cy: government by the people; especially : rule of the majority

So, you're saying my idea is bad because it goes against the majority? Go hit the dictionary to find the definition of majority on your own.

And that ^ was done by somebody who works most weekends. So keep on trollololololing. As you can see, this thread is obviously coming from somebody who just can't handle grind.

I was sarcastic, in the sense of "I'm sorry for you, but it hurts more people than it helps, you gotta love democracy don't you". I think democracy is one of the most flawed political ways of going, because it's nothing but a big illusion anyway. It sounds nice on paper, but so does communism.. And this is way off topic anyway..

Next time you wanna /toldstatus me, try to get the context first.

shadeblade47 · Jun 03, 2011, 11:59 PM // 23:59

I <3 you too.

Bright Star Shine · Jun 04, 2011, 12:05 AM // 00:05

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Originally Posted by shadeblade47

I <3 you too.

Wait, I'm confused, are we agreeing now? Or are we agreeing to disagree?

shadeblade47 · Jun 04, 2011, 12:56 AM // 00:56

lol i see your point but im saying that i dont agree with it. this isnt a qq troll thread, this isnt even something that would affect me whatsoever if it happened because of the point i am at in gw. this idea randomly popped into my head for whatever reason and it seems a lot of people agreed with it. if you could think of another way to bring people together for the random things in gw without double rep, go for it. they cant just throw in vq strongboxes or something like that obviously so im saying this would be a good way to encourage people to give their heroes a vacation and play together a bit longer. a lot of people work weekends and have weekdays off. a lot of people are busy weekends but play gw after school/work during the week. this is why im saying that perhaps pushing the events 1 day longer, maybe making it so they start thursday and end before sunday even for all i care. i take people of all skill levels into my guild and over time turn them into whatever they want, from successful sc'ers to gvgers. ive played all aspects of the game and i know that i had it easy compared to these people that bought an mmo and ended up with a singleplayer game. people who just started gw know nothing of heroes yet they cant find groups for missions. veteran players, including myself, may be willing to help with some missions but they dont want to play through campaign 20 times on the same character. this is why im saying that they should do something that will bring everybody else to where the new players may be stuck. i used to do doa daily as a tank back when warriors tanked, pre-hm. ive done post hm with messpike, ive done dwg and glaiveway. im not claiming to be a professional at doasc but ive see first-hand that doasc guilds that are starting up are always in need of more tanks. players who have experience tanking in other sc's are not suited for tanking doasc, and people who have spiked doasc for a long time still have a lot of adjusting to do when they take on the role. new tanks will not get into MOST (not all) guilds without rank because rank makes learning much easier. regardless of whether or not you agree with my idea, it's much more about the end result than how its put into effect.

Bright Star Shine · Jun 04, 2011, 01:14 AM // 01:14

Although I can somewhat find myself in the idea of extending the events with 1 day tops (sorry, but the 5 day thing was just ridiculous) it still won't change a thing. People won't magically group up to grind, just because the event lasts a day longer. When it's double rep time, people do what they always do: grab their hero's and grind. Just because it's faster than grouping up. You don't need to wait for your heroes to ready up. No "1sec, brb"'s, just go when you're rdy. Double rep won't change this. One of the exceptions might be LB/SS farm with the Rune of Doom thing. There you might still find players.

I do however still have to disagree with you on your so-claimed DoA tanking needing ranks. My ssin happens to have max ranks, but she started off tanking with r3 LB (which was max more than soon enough, currently sitting on ~1,2mill on my ssin I think) and r3 norn. No idea how long IAU lasts there, but it worked perfectly, and the extra couple seconds won't help me anywhere outside of trenching perhaps, although no, even there it won't, because your timing should be as such that your IAU lasts just long enough to tank a group and be recharged by the time you go to the next (although again, I'm currently learning a new way of trenching, and there might be one pull where the 2 secs of IAU might make the difference, but you won't be doing any of that funky stuff anyway when you're learning to tank).. Bottom line, ranks on a tank are not needed.
About the needing ranks on a ssin to get into a guild. Unless you're talking [DL] I know no other guild that has retarded rep req's to get in.. You will get judged on your ranks on your mesmer and monk, which is r7 asura and r9 SS, that's it. People that learn to tank are also usually chosen by the more exp tanks because they say "this person shows great potential to learn it, let's teach them" and the last thing on their minds will be a silly norn rank to get your IAU to last 1 more second...

Also, I've also seen first-hand that new guilds are in desperate need for new tanks, I've tanked several runs for a starting DoASC guild that needed exp people to help them out, it's fun to help them, but double rep weekends isn't gonna help them in any way..

On a sidenote: the rep weekends come so little times anyway that going through this entire argument of them being worth it is quite redundant anyway, because they are so scarce..

shadeblade47 · Jun 04, 2011, 01:23 AM // 01:23

if theyre so scarce then why argue at all? 3-4 days in a what, 4 month period? as opposed to 2 and a half wont really make them less special. people get to farm bday cupcakes for a week and they still find that to be a special time. this isnt even just about rep, its about everything. i know so many veteran players who have never done so many different things because there are never groups and doing things with heroes is pretty much not worth doing unless youre desperate to grind something

Bright Star Shine · Jun 04, 2011, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Yeh, hence my last sentence... I guess I just like arguing too much...

But then again, double rep doesn't help grouping anyway. Grouping is dead, and there is very little that Anet can do to revive it, if not nothing... The game is slowly coming down to a very select group of people that are just too hooked up to it to let go..

That and a slow stream of new players that generally can't be arsed to do any effort, so they QQ and get what they want.. Thank you, 'casual player'. Although, that's not entirely fair. There are also casual players that play the game straight up, no offense meant to any of those people, just the QQ'ers.

I shouldn't be posting shit on here past 3am anymore.. I just go off topic too much...